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The Acts2028 Podcast

Brian Seidel and TJ Samuelu are two friends and CHOG Pastors that are called to revitalize the existing church in the Pacific Northwest.

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Many leaders serve from a pretty empty place. Not only does this pull down the quality of your work, but also can lead to burnout. Brian and T.J. discuss things they do to keep themselves from going down this road.

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Empty is not Good

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